GT, in a comment on my post entitled “Cold Case Pursuing Info on JJ4S Published October 13, 20202- DT Key Witness Asks the Question: How did we know about a sexual relationship between Shellie and PH?
A commenter (GT) asks a questions concerning Shellie and PH. I have mentioned the relationship between them both and wrote many posts using sexual contacts between them.
I made a hard and difficult effort to set up a meeting between Shellie’s best friend and myself and I finally arranged a meeting with her and her husband on January 20, 2016. Rather than write what transpired from years later I am going to my notes and other information on the meeting and give you the exact wording used in my post entitled Justice – The Gigi Factor – Believable and a Blockbuster” published January 21, 2016.
I want readers to understand that to make contact and create a safe and cordial atmosphere it took time and effort, however I know that this interview would be beneficial since she was Shellie’s best friend and had information needed in our quest for justice for Shellie. Her name is GIG and now lives with her husband and 2 children in a small city two hours drive from Va Beach Here is the first of many posts concerning GIG, however I came away believing her and with a blockbuster story.
On the early morning of Shellie’s murder, cold case reveal for the first time a second witness. In a publication Aug 13, 2020 entitled “Police Share Newly-Released Details in Unsolved Murder of Shellie Carson” the VBPS state “A Second witness out walking his dog said he saw Shellie further down the road (Kings Grant Rd) at 4:06 AM still riding her bike.” The importance in this statement is that the cold case finally acknowledged what Justice knew very early on in out investigation starting in 2009. The second witness was DT who crisscrossed the Kings Grant area for 2 1/2 hours from 4AM to 6:30AM on August 14, 2005. It was DT who spoke to Bill and Charlotte Carson about some observations he had early morning of their daughter’s murder.
Justice pinpointed DT as the KEY witness and has had numerous conversations with him. What DT did not know is that he would be key in helping to solve who killed Shellie. I have written over 20 posts concerning different things I learned from DT’s observations on his criss-crossing the same area when Shellie was murdered. I was able to put together a time line starting from the time he left his home on Suffolk Lane till the time he returned home (4AM to 6:30 AM).
His key observation of Shellie on Suffolk lane at 4:06Am and her murdered body found at 6:08AM on the King’s Grant Circle. Was she lured there by PH who was home and his wife was on a trip. We know this: they had a sexual relationship.
If it becomes law, the measure could begin to end state law enforcement agencies long standing practice of shielding nearly all their files from the public.
If this bill is posted which is doubtful, we could examine criminal investigation files regarding Shellie’s brutal murder and would allow the public, in cases that haven’t been prosecuted, the files would become public three years after the incident. Please read the article written by Peter Dujardin, published in the Virginian-Pilot.
According to the Indictment/Investigation Report we discovered that PH was not the party who alerted VBPD to the discovery site of Shellie’s murder. PH has led us to believe that he was the one who called 911 at 6:09 AM about finding the site where Shellie’s body was discovered savagely beaten to death. After reading the incident report we learn that PH was not the one who reported and alerted police to where Shellie’s body was discovered. PH however was labeled as a (IO) or “Involved Other.”
What does this tell us? It tells us that another party was the reporting party and alerted VBPD to the King’s Grant Circle location.
PH’s vehicle, a white Honda Odyssey was parked on the circle and in fact stayed put until Monday morning when it was released by police. PH was an instant suspect in Shellie’s murder. The person who killed Shellie also is aware and knows he can be recognized by the Reporting Party as well as the fact that a vehicle identifies the driver and that a white Odyssey was owned by PH.
Could this scenario be possible? PH knows at this point that he is a marked man and panics. His instant decision is to be the one who tries to revive her, however he also know that being discovered with Shellie’s body will create a problem as he was her coach and had sexual relations with her. Because police were on their way he creates the circumstances that he just found a body of a female. He must brutally make her unrecognizable in order to keep police from being suspicious of their relationship. The autopsy report supports major attack to her head, the overkill and result of becoming unrecognizable.
In his conversation with police he portrays himself as the Good Samaritan trying to save this person he found by trying to revive her as he comforts her. He repeatedly tells them she is alive when I arrived and he tried in vain to save her. PH also tells us that he tried to put her pants back on her, which I find very odd. P.S. Police did not recover any clothing at the murder site. That I find is odd, because how can he try to put the pants back on her when there was no evidence of pants in the police report?
Was Shellie was made unrecognizable to shield PH from extensive interrogation from LE at the murder site?
After reading the autopsy report my thoughts focused on the vicious, savagely brutal attack on Shellie. She was murdered, but my focus was why and how did the killer attack her to savage her and purposely fixated on her head. The autopsy reveals “blunt blows repeatedly to the head.” This viscious and savage attack revealed “multiple blows to the head creating more than 20 lacerations consistent with twenty to twenty-five blows.”
In the account, he not only murdered her, he also nullified her face. She became unrecognizable. I kept thinking why and who had the motive to kill her as he did. I focused on the motive and put myself at the scene of the murder and thinking of all the suspects and why they may have killed her in the factions of destroying identification. Who had the motive and why? That question helped when I looked at the overkill and considered some of the suspects. Why would the murder be to make her unrecognizable when the LE will discover it from the finger prints, or many other ways?
I, myself, came to my own conclusions on the suspect and why.
What the question is, is who killed Shellie and what motivated the overkill portion of the murder? This overkill is new to us and may help us to focus more on the suspects when they ask themselves who had the motive to kill her and why she was murdered in with the added overkill.
The question of the overkill bay be associated with the person who discovered her body. If she could not be recognized, who benefits?
Tell us your thoughts of the autopsy report and your thinking.
A highly qualified software expert who worked with PH in Special Operations responded to a post dealing with Shellie’s murder to help Justice for Shellie secure information on PH’s involvement in Shellie’s murder. An Anon person responded on our blog with “You’ve found one. I worked with PH at the time of the event (the day after actually).” He tells us that in the months after the event I couldn’t quite figure out but something wasn’t right with it. “I didn’t give it much thought at the time but it troubled me enough after seeing recent news articles to start fact checking led me here.” [the blog]
After coworker contacted Justice for Shellie an interview was held on September 27, 2015. the Anon Co-Worker related his personal conversation with PH on Monday morning, August 15, 2005 which was the day after the murdered body was discovered at the Kings Grant Circle by PH himself. Anon Co-worker did not have any knowledge about the call to police or PH visit to the abandoned house. He did say, however, “he ain’t what he says he is “referring to him being a family man and a devoted church person. He did saw when he found her she was still breathing and he comforted her and prayed with her. He also said that he tried to put her clothing back on her. This alone stunned Justice and Bill since we are aware, as the police are of what was found at the scene and what was missing.
What really bothers me is the contradiction of his attempt to put back her clothing when the police claim that no pants or underwear were found at the murder scene. This, alone, is stunning as Bill and I were aware of what was found at the scene and what was missing.
He did say that he covered the body without specifying what covered her body. He did also say that “PH had skeletons in his closet” but that was his observation not at this point in time but a combination of observation over many months. He didn’t elaborate further however his conversation revealed some weird and bizarre behavior. For example, he said his divorce was caused by the events of Shellie’s murder. His words were “event had everything to do with his divorce.” He also disclosed that PH’s ranger training should have prepared him for what he experienced (Shellie’s murdered body). appeared he was incapable of handling further talk about Shellie.
Anon Coworker also exposed the fact that PH had an obsession with young girls and “dreamed about naked young girls.” At another point he relates that PH had visions of “young girls naked.” Anon Coworker did his best to explain that PH had sexual fantasies and this may have been recognized by his wife ushering in a speedy divorce.
Anon coworker also told us that he was observed by others wearing girls underwear. A few months after the murder he talked of suicide. He also mentioned he thought it weird that PH at 49 wore braces for cosmetic reasons.”
Justice has investigated Shellie’s timeline very carefully and a very valuable piece of the timeline was released by VBPD Vice in MyNews.com on August 13, 2020. Va BEach citizen DT was a second witness, while walking his dog and saw Shellie further down the road at 4:06 AM, a very valuable piece of her timeline. We know now that Shellie passed her street to her house and was heading further down the road. This information tells us she did not go home but chose to ride to another location on Suffolk Rd.
Justice has already written numerous posts regarding Shellie’s time line after leaving the 7-Eleven. We know the exact time via a surveillance camera which puts the time as 3:50AM. We knew that a witness reported seeing Shellie at 4 AM riding her bike in the same traffic circle where she was later found murdered. They then reveal that a second witness was out walking his dog and said he saw Shellie further down the road at 4:06 AM still riding her bike. The location of DT (2nd witness) observation at 4:06 helps tell the story where Shellie was heading the location that 2nd witness (DT) saw was at the corner of Kings Grant Rd and Suffolk Lane. This location is about 4 blocks up on Kings Grant from Shellie’s house location. She did not go home but was in an area of Suffolk and Kings Grant. She proceeded down Suffolk Lane and 2nd Witness observed her make a sharp right turn (Suffolk lane) and lost visibility.
Justice has had over 20 meetings with witness #2 (DT) and has put together what was observed and related to Justice.
DT tells us that Shellie made a left turn off of Kings Grant at Suffolk Lane and he watched her ride her bike slowly back and forth as he followed her. At a sharp right turn he lost her visibility however when he arrived at the sharp turn he looked down the street and could not see her. The important value is that on the corner of Suffolk La was the home of the person that discovered her body later at 6:08AM. That man was PH.
Was DT mistaken on ID of Shellie? I do not believe he was mistaken. I believe he saw Shellie and that she was headed to PH’s house. Was she murdered there and dumped at the traffic circle?
I have attached a link of a printing on Aug 14, 2020 regarding detectives with the VBPD Cold Case Unit sharing new information about the murder of Shellie Carson on the 15th Anniversary of her murder.
I will be following up on my opinion and thoughts concerning what was said and thought concerning what was said by the VBPD. There is one thing said that bolsters my thinking of who was the killer. Please read it carefully so that we can have a dialogue concerning Shellie’s murder.