Justice to Coordinate PH with Sherluck as Point Man

Written by Clarke Kent

Justice has had meetings and conversations with Sherluck to specifically coordinate all information and new information on his possible involvement in the Shellie Carson murder investigation. Sherluck has indicated his willingness to help coordinate new information with Justice. All people interested will be able to contribute via comments on the Justice for Shellie blog site. We now must be creative in seeking information from all sorts of documentation available to citizens. I need people who can check the court documents as well ass all supposed documents surrounding PH finding Shellie’s body on Sunday Aug 13th, 2005. There is a call from PH to Police at 6:09 AM which we need to be able to view and get a copy via “Freedom of Information.”

We need people willing to ask for information that legally should be available to the public. Please coordinate with me and Sherluck directly or via the Justice for Shellie website thru the comments Justice for years has tried to get documents, however it was always blocked by VBPD that claimed it is a currently in an open investigation and they do not want it available to citizens. Let’s try again now after 5 – 7 years of refusals

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PH – Interview – Part 2

Written by Clarke Kent

Justice will be concentrating more vigorously, and now that we have a Va Beach citizen who has an ardent enthusiasm for investigating PH. And will be introduced on my next post. I wanted to have everyone read the interviews prior to my introduction of “Sherluck.”

Here is my Part 2 of PH’s interview.

PH explained in a diagram (See attachment A) where he parked his vehicle (see #1), the vacant house (see #2), parked police car where he was initially sitting until detectives talked to him, and #4 indicates the place on the circle where detectives interviewed him. Justice put in the road names and Brill Field. As I stated in Part #1, the white vehicle, a Honda Odyssey was parked at diagram #1 and was there until Monday when it was released. I attach a Wavy photo as (Attachment B) which reveals a single white vehicle, van type in the picture. It was taken just after the Forensic Team arrived. If you look carefully, you can observe a privacy shield on the ground and the bike to it’s left. Indicated also in the photo is the police yellow crime tape that blocked people and vehicles from the area. A tape was stretched between a small tree across Kings Grant Circle, etc.

When PH was asked if he recognized the body, he said no. He describes the face, however the LE said she was hit by a blunt object. He did say that he learned on Monday when his daughter told him it was Shellie. You coached her on the basketball team. He also told Bill and I that when he initially tried to assist this female that “she moaned once.” He also revealed that at first glanced he thought that she was attacked sexually. The police incident/Investigative Report indicates that at 6:09 AM and would be consistent with PH’s assessment that he arrived at 6:04 AM, found the body, returned to vehicle, secured a towel and tried to comfort her and call 911. The LE incident report of found at 6:09 Am would be when the cell phone was docketed in police records. The EMS arriving prior to police and the police not able to find the Kings Grant Circle and the body location from the call is a question of PH’s indicating when he and the location for help…the police arrived at Newcastle and were at a point close to the Little Neck Rd and PH had to wave them to the body location. Either the police went to Newcastle instead of Little Neck Rd to the circle via Kings Grant Rd. PH however said he was clear to the operator as indicated by EMS earlier arrived at the least we know that the police reaction time needs to be reviewed. Usually  a police vehicle is patrolling an area and if notified could respond within minutes.

Back to PH. He indicated that he was on a holding pattern in a police vehicle (See diagram #3) location and was talked to by a detective at location #4 on diagram. During his brief interview with Detective if he was aware of who it was, he would have revealed it at that point. PH also reveals that a few days later police asked him for a DNA swab and he agreed and it was taken.

Others thought at one time during our interview PH stated that “she was salvable at that time.” He also mentioned that he sought out the pastor at Bill’s church to ask advise. It appears that Bill and he had as PH describes it an encounter at this church. Bill asked him to come talk with Charlotte. That is how PH arrived to talk to both together. Bill had forgotten this meeting.

Bill has told me that PH several days after her murder, that PH visited with Charlotte and himself. He said “Although it appeared difficult for him, as it was for us, he explained what happened that morning. He was very kind to make this visit and his visit gave us great comfort. We were and I remain deeply indebted to him for his kindness in finding Shellie and praying for her and relating the traumatic details to us.”

Some other aspect of our interview: Ph mentioned that he wanted to keep his identity private, that he preferred Good Samaritan. Bill asked me to refer to him as the Good Samaritan. I told I can’t since he is a POI and also identified as PH.

I called PH on his cell and left a message to call me to discuss a few issues. As of this posting today, 11/6/15 he hasn’t returned my call. I’ updating, PH did call and he agreed to meet with me w/o wife in one week when he returns. I asked him at the interview if he checked the website/blog and he said he didn’t but his ex referred to getting other information on Shellie’s murder via other means. He did not know Don T or recently the Coworker. The issue of Suffolk Lane, Coworker, Incident Report and neighbor’s comments were not reviewed since we only focused on what happened at the circle with the body.

As I said in Part #1 it was a confrontational atmosphere and presented questions on Don T, Suffolk Lane, and other topics.

My next post will deal with questions, what we learned, conflicting matters, timeline and other input from the PH interview.

Bill was afraid if I used PH in my post, PH himself would get upset and maybe jeopardize future interviews. As I understand it this was a one time only interview and he didn’t want to deal with it anymore. I’ll close with telling readers that PH wold us he was upset and anxious about the interview and didn’t sleep well the night before.

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PH – Interview – Part I

Written by Clarke Kent

Bill Carson and myself worked very hard to set up a meeting with PH. We both know that this would be our only chance to inquire into what we had already learned in the 10 years since Shellie Carson was murdered.

Please read it carefully and remember that it is now 5 years after we interviewed PH on Nov 4, 2015. Now 15 years after PH discovered Shellie’s murdered body, interest in PH has increased. Our question now is was PH the Good Samaritan the Carson’s believed him to be? I will post the part 2 of the interview sshortly after we have a chance to digest what we learned about PH. We welcome your thoughts and comments. Now the interview:

I arrived early at Bill’s home for our 5 PM meeting/Interview with the Good Samaritan (PH). We discussed the interview and Bill pointed out that PH was prepared to talk about the discovery of Shellie’s body and what transpired at the discovery location across from the Kings Grant Circle.  He repeated that this will be difficult for him and also PH and he wanted me to understand his feeling as well as PH’s. I told him I understood. At exactly 5PM both PH and his wife arrived and were introduced to me and after a cordial chat we began the interview. I was prepared with many questions, however PH made it known that he wanted to tell his story of the discovery. Leaving his home on Suffolk Lane with his 19 year old daughter to drop her off for work restocking merchandise at a business in Lynnhaven Mall. I interjected with can you tell me the name of the store? This basic question ignited an incendiary response from his wife. The wife who preferred not be identified was annoyed at my questions as being instructive in his daughter’s business. She was also upset at how we have her address that was invasive to her. With regard to my question to PH on where his daughter worked he didn’t seem too concern PH.

Her spontaneous rebuke of the question created a confrontational atmosphere. She perceived that my intention was to conduct an inquisition, instead of allowing PH to tell his story. Justice has waited this long for this opportunity we weren’t going to abort this opportunity. It appeared to me that she was about to abruptly cancel this interview and leave. Voices were raised by myself and the wife. Justice calculation was we have to came to far to let this mini-confrontation conclude this interview. I explained that I was trying to  do a thorough job in obtaining information. I saw the interview disappearing with their abrupt departure. I told them we wanted to hear his story and that I would only interrupt to get better clarification. This seemed to placate the wife and we returned to the daughter’s drop off at Lynnhaven Mall at 5:30 AM.

Now to what we learned. PH headed home after dropping his daughter at her job and headed to Va Beach Blvd to Kings Grant Rd passing Little Neck Rd and entered the Kings Grant circle. After making a right turn he observed a bike laying under a bush and thought it might be someone who fell off his/her bike so he continued around the circle again and parked his white van type vehicle where the bike was and left to look what happened. He then discovered a body lying there bleeding from head wounds. He described a horrible scene. He tried comforting her and secured a towel he had in his vehicle and put the blue and white stripped towel under her head. He was afraid to move her for fear of a neck injury he might injure further. He described hearing her gurgle which brought tears to his eyes. He was empathetic that she was alive and he prayed for her. He describes calling 911 operator from his cell phone. On the phone after giving the location he prayed on the phone with the operator. PH estimates he arrived a little after 6 AM and he put it at 6:04 AM. As he waited with the body he left briefly to knock on the door of the home, but didn’t realize it was empty. He immediately returned to the body, just at the time the EMS arrived. Medics rushed to the body and a female medic spoke with PH, who was very shaken. At one point he heard the police up near Little Neck Rd and Newcastle and waved them down towards the circle. He said a rescue ambulance was there as well as the fire department. He reveals that the medics covered the body with a white blanket over her and he protested that she was alive.

He discloses that she had no pants or underwear on and that her shirt was pulled up over her breasts. He also mentioned she had a sock on one foot and he did not observe any clothing, socks or sneakers visible.

There are several startling other discoveries which I will discuss in part 2.

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An Email’s Request, re: PH

Written by Clarke Kent

Justice received this email on Feb 20, 2020 from a valued participant with Justice for Shellie. RK asks a very basic question. RK inquires “Has Justice ever attempted to make contact with SH or her daughter?” A very simple request as Justice has tried many times to contact SH, however we have been rebuked. I’m not meaning to avoid all the attempts that were made with no success, but believe that we need help. We reside in Va Beach and others have knowledge of Shellie’s murder and the existence of Justice for Shellie and may know SH or her daughter and they may be in a position to help in some way to arrange an interview or another avenue to reach SH.

Please read the attached Email and give it a thought. It is not 15 years and things have changed. Please consider what we can do to speak with SH or her daughter. You never know unless you ask.

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PH Daughter – Where working? – Contact Made – False Alibi?

To answer the questions TK made in her comment on “Justice Responds to Evidence with a Fresh Look at PH” posted on February 15, 2020 inquiring “Has anyone been in contact with her daughter who PH was driving to work…verified…this was actual time? Where she was working…could this have been a false alibi?” To answer that question I will quote exactly what I wrote after my first and only interview with PH. This is coming from my post dated Nov 5, 2015 in Post “Justice Interview with PH – Part 1” You will see by the first paragraphs that the question could not be answered. Judge for yourself.

“I arrived early at Bill’s home for our 5 PM meeting/Interview with the Good Samaritan (PH). We discussed the interview and Bill pointed out that PH was prepared to talk about the discovery of Shellie’s body and what transpired at the discovery location across from the Kings Grant Circle.  He repeated that this will be difficult for him and also PH and he wanted me to understand his feeling as well as PH’s. I told him I understood. At exactly 5PM both PH and his wife arrived and were introduced to me and after a cordial chat we began the interview. I was prepared with many questions, however PH made it known that he wanted to tell his story of the discovery. Leaving his home on Suffolk Lane with his 19 year old daughter to drop her off for work restocking merchandise at a business in Lynnhaven Mall. I interjected with can you tell me the name of the store? This basic question ignited an incendiary response from his wife. The wife who preferred not be identified was annoyed at my questions as being instructive in his daughter’s business. She was also upset at how we have her address that was invasive to her. With regard to my question to PH on where his daughter worked he didn’t seem to concern.

Her spontaneous rebuke of the question created a confrontational atmosphere. She perceived that my intention was to conduct an inquisition, instead of allowing PH to tell his story. Justice has waited this long for this opportunity we weren’t going to abort this opportunity. It appeared to me that she was about to abruptly cancel this interview and leave. Voices were raised by myself and the wife. Justice calculation was we have to came to far to let this mini-confrontation conclude this interview. I explained that I was trying to  do a thorough job in obtaining information. I saw the interview disappearing with their abrupt departure. I told them we wanted to hear his story and that I would only interrupt to get better clarification. This seemed to placate the wife and we returned to the daughter’s drop off at Lynnhaven Mall at 5:30 AM.

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Justice Responds to Evidence with a Fresh Look at PH

Evidence’s comment on Feb 9, 2020 on my post published Oct 28, 2019 entitled “VB Citizen DT’s Observation – 4AM to 6AM – Creates No Interest with VBPD” created my interest, especially his comment “Something about the way he was in that position,” to reexamine being at the circle and finding Shellie’s body. I decided to reexamine DT’s observation with an interest of putting PH as my prime suspect in Shellie’s murder. My thinking brought me to DT’s 5:15 AM seeing two suspicious vehicles at the circle area where the murdered body of Shellie was discovered by PH at 6:09AM. My thinking was always predicated on the 2 vehicles being the culprits who were there solely to dump the body and leave the body at the circle. I, therefore asked myself the question: What if these two vehicles had absolutely nothing to do with Shellie’s murder? My thinking was always that it was absolutely part of the murder scene, and Evidence’s comments allowed me to consider looking at the case without the two vehicles having anything to do with the murder investigation. While it did occur (the 2 vehicles) it may have had no barring on the murder.

With that said I realize that our scenario could change to PH becoming more involved than just discovering Shellie’s body. If that young girl on Suffolk Lane at 4:10 AM riding her bike was indeed Shellie and she was in the area of PH’s home on Suffolk Lane being in position to being involved with Shellie is viable.

We must take another look at PH and evaluate his involvement with Shellie, who we knew he was having or had clandestine meetings. With regard to Shellie’s secret times with PH it is important that it was only discovered many years after her death. The information was told to be by a close girlfriend of Shellie’s who identified PH via a picture shown to her.

Justice has interviewed PH, and has discovered an abundance of information. He is a suspect in Shellie’s murder, along with others in a case that must be solved. Evidence also has a wealth of information and has been a valued contributor in the Justice for Shellie effort of leaning information that will help in solving this murder case. If anyone has information on PH or others we ask that you contribute it to our blog and become a part of the Justice for Shellie contributors.

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BW – Transfixed with Observation of Shellie’s Murder?

Written by Clarke Kent

Was BW so transfixed with the horror of Shellie’s murder that it has influenced her life? BW now in her 30s is still in trouble with the law. On Nov 17, 2019 feeling odd commented the following: “Look up a familiar girl arrested BW 11/11/19, Disorderly conduct and assault.”

Assuming information, which is not corroborated, that BW was present at Shellie’s murder and that she was so emotionally moved for her life, this is her fear that it could happen to her. She has a young son fathered by MS2, who has a threat of something happening to her if she speaks up. BW has always been afraid of MS2, and knows his fury and violent rage.

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VB Citizen DT’s Observations – 4AM to 6 AM – Create No Interest with VBPD

Written by Clarke Kent

I have worked on the Shellie Carson murder case since 2009 to present (10 plus years) and have always thought that DT’s observations during a 2 hour period have been glaringly overlooked by the VBPD. My opinion is that the VBPD missed the opportunity to question DT on what he observed prior and during Shellie’s murder. I have spoken to DT and find that his observations during a period of 2 hours tell part of the tale of Shellie’s murder. I have written many posts about the observations and I realize that Don T didn’t know what his observations were revealing. He believed very strongly that he observed something on the circle where Shellie’s body was discovered that was very strange and may have something to do with her murder. His observations that he brought up to Shellie’s father Bill had to do with two vehciels at the circle area where the murdered body of Shellie Carson was found. The time was 5:15 AM. I believe that he observed a pick up truck and a small car in an exchange that ended in the pick up truck speeding away and the smaller car following very closely behind. As they sped away Don T, who was getting ready to cross King’s Grant Rd at the middle school, watched these two vehicles make a right hand turn and drove right past him. I firmly believe that they were leaving the area of Shellie’s body being dumped on the circle and were in a hasty retreat from the dumping site. It is my opinion that the pick up truck carried her body and that the smaller car was a look out vehicle who alerted the pick up truck to vacate quickly. I believe that Justice can identify the two vehicles and the people involved.

Justice also believed that there are three other observations that also can reveal information pertinent to our investigation.

Justice further believes that 2 vehicles and their rapid departure from the dumping area at the circle reveals where they were heading as well as who were involved.

Please read my early post “Kings Grant Circle Discovery Site – Series A” July 17, 2012, as well as:

-5/30/12 “Old Information Creates New Interest”
-6/2/12 “Shellie’s Whereabouts from 4:12 AM ro 5:15 AM on 8/14/05”
-6/3/12 “Justice to Dave on Last Sighting at Crossroads”
-6/4/12 “Crossroads Sighting Pursued”
-6/5/12 “Justice’s Resolute Effort Regarding PH”
-3/27/12 “Shellie’s Whereabouts 4:15 AM- 5:15 AM”

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Shellie’s Classmates Approach Justice – Considering a Podcast

Written by Clarke Kent

Some interested classmates of Shellie Carson after 14 years have approached Justice for Shellie with the idea of creating a podcast. A podcast is defined as “a digital audio file made available on the internet for downloading to a computer or mobile device typically available as a series, new installments of which can be received by subscribers.”

Our meeting was cordial and both former classmates and I discussed her murder and how it impacts them now as people in their 30s. Both knew Shellie and were interested in what was transpiring 14+ years later after her murder on Aug 14, 2005. How they and others from the 2005 class at First Colonial High School were interested in explore how they could share information that may help solve this brutal murder case.

My position is that I will cooperate and welcome discussion with people who knew Shellie. Any help from people and students that are not in their mid 30s is very welcome as they have grown part of their families and have children and matured into adults. We welcome any and all who want to share what they now know as adults.

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Not Fooled Challenges Clarke Re: Meth Lab Off Track and CT Overlooked

Written by Clarke Kent

In a refreshing criticism of Clarke’s last post entitled “Was RK/BW/DK Storage Experience a Dry Run for Meth Lab Birth?” Not Fooled challengers Clarke Re: Meth Lab off track and CT is overlooked. Clarke is overlooking the real rationale to Justice for Shellie. While the meth lab introduced the DK and MS2 unholy alliance, the purpose for the rationale of our blog is to obtain information that will help the VBPD solve the murder of Shellie Carson at 18 years old August 14, 2005. Not fooled refocuses our quest to obtain the information that will solve this brutal murder case. While the meth lab existence is important because it shows the relationships between MS2, BW, DK, RK and a meth lab which we believe was operated by MS2/DK with BW becoming a central suspect in its operation. That is of course the only arrest at that meth lab unit. We find out however that BW was but a minor person and early on took the brunt of liability for the units existence. We now understand the rationale for the 2 units 105 and 101 and how she was manipulated to be ever present at the unit. Alcohol and drugs were the bait.

Not Fooled introduces more interest in CT as a main suspect. Not fooled introduces him by saying “How have you guys never watched his profile and some of the stuff that he posts. It’s all related to what happened to Shellie that night if you ask me. A girl crashing her bike meme , could they have causes Shellie to crash her bike…seems to me like CT character is playing with everyone’s mind. Just a thought.” Is CT a viable suspect in Shellie’s murder? Is he overlooked. My question is CT reappearing as a suspect and what have we learned about him that would reintroduce him as a legitimate murder suspect?

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